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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot responds to that campaign misstep. A special counsel appointed in Biden's documents investigation. Twenty years since the first step in abolishing Illinois' death penalty. And Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy in Marquette Park.
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Jan. 12, 2023 - Full Show
1/12/2023 | 56m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot responds to that campaign misstep. A special counsel appointed in Biden's documents investigation. Twenty years since the first step in abolishing Illinois' death penalty. And Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy in Marquette Park.
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>> ON THE SHOW TONIGHT THE OUT RATE TEACHERS KNEW THE EMAIL WAS A MISTAKE.
>> THE MAYOR APOLOGIZING WITH A CONTROVERSIAL EMAIL FROM EDUCATORS.
WHAT'S NEXT FOR HER REELECTION CAMPAIGN.
>> THE LATEST ON THE INVESTIGATION INTO CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS FOUND THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN'S HOME.
>> I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING .
>> WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR'S HISTORIC PART PARK MARCH.
>> A FORMER U.S.
SENATOR ON HER NEW ROLE LEADING THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO INTO POLITICS.
>>> WE TALK ABOUT HIS LASTING IMPACT.
>> AS YOU MENTIONED IN RICKETT PARK AS PART OF CHICAGO TONIGHT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES, MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
MARCHED IN THIS PARK MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED THAT IS OTHER INS GATHERED.
>> THE TOP STORY.
TOP FEDERAL PROSECUTOR JOHN LAUSCH IS LEAVING HIS POST EARLIER THIS YEAR.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT COMING FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DURING AN UNRELATED NEWS CONFERENCE.
MOST RECENTLY OVER HE SAW INTO THE BIDEN DOCUMENTS.
THE FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP APPOINTED HIM THE ATTORNEY OF THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS IN 2017.
SINCE THEN HE'S OVERSEEN NUMEROUS HIGH PROFILE INVESTIGATIONS IN CHICAGO.
AMONG THEM THE INDICTMENTS OF MICHAEL MADIGAN ON RACKETEERING AND BRIBERY CHARGES AS WELL AS LONGTIME CHICAGO ALDERMAN ED BURKE.
>> THIS PROMPTED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO APPOINT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL TO PROBE THE PRESIDENTS CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS DISCOVERED AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
>> HE WILL CARRY OUT HIS RESPONSIBILITY IN A EFFICIENT MATTER .
>> A FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY OF MARYLAND AND WAS NOMINATED BY PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IN 2017.
HE IS NOW TASKED WITH FINDING OUT WHY THE DOCUMENTS WERE OUT OF PLACE.
WE WILL HAVE MUCH MORE ON THIS COMING UP IN THE PROGRAM.
>> WE KNEW THIS WOULD BE AN INTERESTING OFF-SEASON FOR THE BEARS BUT HOW ABOUT THIS THEY HAVE A NEW LEADER.
THE TEAM ANNOUNCES THEY'VE HIRED THE BIG TEN COMMISSIONER KEVIN WARREN AFTER THREE YEARS RUNNING THE BIG TEN.
HE REPLACES RETIRING TED PHILLIPS WHO SPENT 40 SEASONS WITH THE BEARS.
HE'S THE FIFTH PRESIDENT OF THE FRANCHISE HISTORY IN THE FIRST OUTSIDE THE ORGANIZATION.
IN A STATEMENT THE BEARS CHAIRMAN DESCRIBED HIM HAS "A PROVEN LEADER WHO HAS MANY TIMES STEPPED OUTSIDE OF HIS COMFORT ZONE FOR UNCONVENTIONAL GROWTH AND PROSPERITY."
>> BIG CHANGES.
COMING UP IN THE PROGRAM EXPLORING DOCTOR KING'S LEGACY AND A LIVE REPORT FROM MARQUETTE PARK.
>>> THE LATEST ON MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT'S CONTROVERSIAL EMAILS.
STAY WITH US.
>> CHICAGO TONIGHT IS MADE POSSIBLE BY ALEXANDRA AND JOHN.
THE POPE BROTHERS FOUNDATION.
THE SUPPORT OF THESE DONORS.
>> MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT'S APOLOGIZES TO SCHOOL LEADERS THAT HELPING HER STUDENTS TO WIN THE SPRING.
>> THE OUTREACH TO TEACHERS, THESE ARE EMAILS , THIS MISTAKE SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED AND IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
>> IRONIES REPORTER BROKE THE STORY AND JOINS US NOW WITH THE LATEST.
REMIND US EXACTLY OF THE EMAIL SENT OUT.
>> THE EMAILS ASKED FOR SIMPLY CURIOUS AND ENTHUSIASTIC STUDENTS TO VOLUNTEER AT LEAST 12 HOURS IN THE REELECTION CAMPAIGN AND RETURN FOR UNSPECIFIED CLASS CREDITS.
NOT ONLY DID THEY GO TO A UNSPECIFIED NUMBER OF SCHOOLTEACHERS BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO TEACHERS OF THE CITY COLLEGES OF CHICAGO TWICE.
FIRST IN AUGUST AND THEN AGAIN THIS WEEK AFTER THAT FIRST EMAIL.
THE CITY COLLEGES ADMONISHED THE LIGHTFOOT CAMPAIGN AND PURGED THE EMAILS FROM THE SYSTEM.
IT'S UNCLEAR WHY THE LIGHTFOOT CAMPAIGN SEND MORE EMAILS.
>> THE ISSUE TO THESE EMAILS, THEY ARE BEING SENT TO GOVERNMENTAL EMAIL ADDRESSES OF THE WORKERS.
THE ACLU RELEASED A STATEMENT ON THIS, WHAT DID THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE MATTER ?
>> THEY SAID THE EMAILS COULD CROSS THE LINE INTO COERCING POLITICAL SPEECH WHICH IS CLEARLY AGAINST FEDERAL LAW.
THE SUPREME COURT RULED GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CANNOT USE THEIR POWER TO MAKE EMPLOYEES EITHER TAKE A SPECIFIC POLITICAL POSITION FOR OR AGAINST A SPECIFIC SPECIFIC POLITICAL POSITION.
TODAY MAYOR LIGHTFOOT SAID SHE DID NOTHING OF THE SORT IN THOSE EMAILS BUT TODAY THESE CONCERNS ARE ALIVE.
THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL PROBES CALLED BY THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND OTHER AGENCIES.
>> SHE DID APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMUNITY.
LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY.
>> I'VE SPOKEN TO BOTH THE CEO AND BOARD CHAIR AND APOLOGIZED TO THEM FOR THE UNNECESSARY DISTRACTION AND MISTAKE.
THIS IS DISTRACTING FROM THE DEDICATED HARD WORK THAT CPS DOES EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS LEARN IN A SAFE AND NURTURING ENVIRONMENT.
>> SCHOOL LEADERS RESPONDED.
>> SCHOOL LEADERS ARE SAYING LOOK, THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE SENTIMENT IT'S A ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE CAMPAIGN .
THERE'S NO ISSUE THAT THEY RECEIVE CLASS CREDIT.
THAT'S AS FAR AS IT STOPPED WITH THEM.
>> IN THIS PRESS CONFERENCE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS SENT IN THE PRESS CENTER.
>> THE PERSON WHO DID THIS UNDERSTANDS THE MAGNITUDE OF THE ISSUE AND FRANKLY, IS MORTIFIED.
I HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG WOMEN WHO WORK FROM ME.
MY POLITICAL CAMPAIGN AND IN MY ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S A TEACHABLE MOMENT FROM THEM.
THIS TO ME IS A MISTAKE.
SHE GETS IT 100%.
>> THE PERSON ON THE EMAILS IS LISTED AT THE DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER , THE MAYOR IS REFERRING TO A YOUNG STAFFER IS SHE PASSING BLAME HERE?
>> SHE FACED NUMEROUS QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW ONE LOW-LEVEL STAFFER COULD BOTH BE THE DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER AND HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SEND OUT THESE SORTS OF EMAILS OF THE MAYOR SAID REALLY NOTHING DIRECTLY TO THAT POINT.
SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THESE EMAILS UNTIL SHE WAS CONTACTED BY HER CAMPAIGN AFTER I ASKED FOR COMMENT AND SAID SHE PUT AN IMMEDIATE STOP TO THE EMAILS BUT THAT'S NOT QUITE TRUE AS WE TALK ABOUT ON SPOTLIGHT POLITICS.
HER CAMPAIGN ISSUE TOOK THREE STATEMENTS BEFORE SAYING THEY WOULD NO LONGER SEND THESE OUT.
SHE SAID HER CAMPAIGN DEFENDED IT AS A WAY TO REACH OUT TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET INVOLVED IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS.
>> THESE ARE VERY VASTLY DIFFERENT STATEMENTS.
CHANGING THE MESSAGING AROUND THERE.
EXCELLENT WORK AS ALWAYS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> CATCH UP ON HEATHER'S COVERAGE OF THE EMAIL BY VISITING OUR WEBSITE.
>> CHICAGO LAWN IS NOW KNOWN AS A DIVERSE COMMUNITY BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT STORY 50 YEARS AGO.
AS PART OF OUR IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES.
JOANNA HERNANDEZ AND OUR PRODUCER SPENT TIME IN A SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY TO EXPLORE THE KING'S WORK IN THE AREA.
JOANNA JOINS US FROM A MONUMENT DEDICATED TO DOCTOR KING .
>> Reporter: WE ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF THE MARTIN LUTHER KING LIVE THE MEMORIAL.
THE TELLING OF A STORY OF A MARCH THAT HAPPENED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TAKING YOU BACK IN HISTORY, BACK TO THE LATE 1960S.
BARBARA MILLER WAS IN HER EARLY 20s WHEN SHE HEARD MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR WAS COMING TO CHICAGO.
>> I HAD TO DO SOMETHING.
I'D ALREADY SEEN ALL OF THE MARCHES HE HAD DONE .
IT WAS MY OPPORTUNITY.
>> Reporter: ON AUGUST 5, 1966, MILLER WAS ONE OF THE HUNDREDS WHO MARCHED ALONGSIDE DOCTOR KING, PROTESTING HOUSING SEGREGATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO.
A TIME WHEN REALTORS REFUSE TO SELL HOMES IN WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN FAMILIES.
>> DESCRIBED TO ME WHAT IT WAS LIKE .
>> THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT IN THE CROWD .
THERE WAS A LOT OF ANXIETY IN THE CROWD.
I WAS FEELING THAT KIND OF ANXIETY.
ONCE WE WERE IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS THRONGS OF PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE YELLING AND SCREAMING , CALLING US NAMES AND TELLING US TO GET OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THROWING THINGS.
ROCKS AND BOTTLES.
>> MARCHERS WALKS TOWARD MARQUETTE PARK ALONG THE WAY DOCTOR KING WAS HIT BY A ROCK.
>> I'VE BEEN IN MANY DEMONSTRATIONS ACROSS THE SOUTH .
I CAN SAY I'VE NEVER SEEN MOBS AS HOSTILE AND AS HATE FILLED I'VE SEEN IN CHICAGO.
>> Reporter: IT WAS PART OF A BIGGER MOVEMENT, ONE THAT HISTORIANS HAVE FOLLOWED.
>> THE SEGREGATED CITY .
WITH THE FREEDOM MOVEMENT WAS TRYING TO DO WAS TO OPEN UP THE CITY AND OPEN UP THE METROPOLITAN AREA.
>> ON THE CORNER OF THE ROAD , INSIDE OF MARQUETTE PARK, THE MEMORIAL HONORING NOT ONLY DOCTOR KING'S LEGACY BUT THOSE WHO FOUGHT HER RACIAL EQUALITY.
>> THIS IS A WONDERFUL TRIBUTE TO THE PEOPLE, THE COMMUNITY, MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. AND THE FAIR HOUSING MARCHES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DATE.
IT'S A WONDERFUL TIME TO REFLECT.
>> IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS SINCE THE SCULPTURES WERE CREATED.
HENDERSON SAYS THEY WANT THERE TO BE A SPIRITUAL CONNECTION WHEN YOU VISIT.
>> WALKING UP THE SIDEWALK IT TAKES YOU INTO THE PROCESSION.
SHE STARTS CIRCLING AROUND THE TABLEAUX.
WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU ARE MET BY THE PROTEST EASE.
AT THE BOTTOM YOU COULD SEE KING AND CORETTA .
I DID SCULPT HER SHOES.
YOU COULD SEE THE BOTTOM OF THEIR LEGS.
THIS PROTESTS SIGNS.
THE NEXT TABLEAU WAS KING GETTING STRUCK BY A ROCK.
THE MEATPACKERS UNION WAS THERE TO PROTECT THEM AND PUSHING HIM DOWN.
>> A REMINDER OF THE PAST THAT NEEDS MORE ATTENTION.
>> THE SPIRIT OF CHICAGO FREEDOM MOVEMENT IS A SPIRIT THAT SHOULD BE EMBRACED BY MORE CHICAGOANS.
THERE SHOULD BE STUDY AND RECOGNITION OF WHAT HAPPENED AND WE CAN LEARN FROM THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.
CHICAGO'S DREAM EXCUSE ME, MARTIN LUTHER'S DREAM IN CHICAGO WAS A CITY OF PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER, A CITY OF BROTHERHOOD.
>> THE NEIGHBORHOODS DEMOGRAPHIC HAS SINCE CHANGED YET MILLER SAYS SHE CANNOT FORGET THE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE HERE MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO.
>> IT'S ALWAYS A MIRACULOUS SITUATION BECAUSE HE REALIZE HOW HARD THEY FOUGHT TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY COULD HAVE JUST SHARED.
IT WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD I COULDN'T HAVE WALKED THROUGH.
>> HOLDING ONTO THE VISION OF MARTIN PICKING JUNIOR'S MOVEMENT .
>> IT TELLS ME .
IT SADDENS ME HE HAD TO DIE IN A VIOLENT WAY.
THE DREAM WILL BE REALIZED.
I EXPECT IT IN MY LIFETIME.
>> Reporter: IN A NEARBY NEIGHBORHOOD, TAKING CERAMIC CLASSES IN THE COMMUNITY, WE SPEAK TO AN ORGANIZATION WHO HONORS THIS MONUMENT.
BACK TO YOU.
>> JOANNA, THANK YOU WE WILL SEE YOU SOON.
NAFTA DETAILS ON PRESIDENT BIDEN'S DOCUMENT DILEMMA.
>>> IS PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IS UNDER FIRE OVER THE HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS HIS ATTORNEY FOUND A HANDFUL OF THEM AT THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL CENTER, DOCUMENTS AT HIS RESIDENT , HIS PREDECESSOR CURRENTLY FACING HIS OWN FEDERAL INVESTIGATION AFTER AGENTS RAIDED HIS HOME TO RECOVER CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
TODAY ON CHICAGO U.S. ATTORNEY JOHN LASH'S RECOMMENDATION, A SPECIAL COUNSEL WILL PROBE THE BIDEN DOCUMENTS CASE.
JOHN LAUSCH.
>> THE DOCUMENTS AUTHORIZE HIM TO INVESTIGATE ANY PERSON OR ENTITY VIOLATING THE LAW WITHIN THE CONNECTION OF THIS MATTER.
>> HERE TO BREAK THIS DOWN IS PATRICK COLLINS A FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR, JOSEPH MORRIS A FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE BOARD DIRECTORS CHAIR AND DEPARTMENT MORRIS, AND DE LA ROSA.
FOR TRANSPARENCY MISTER MORRIS IS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD.
THE PROFESSOR OF LAW AT CHICAGO-KENT COLLEGE OF LAW.
WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO CHICAGO TONIGHT.
WE SHOULD MENTION THE U.S. ATTORNEY JOHN LAUS WAS THE FIRST BROUGHT INTO THE INITIAL REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENTS.
REMIND US OF THE ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL HAS IN THE SITUATION.
>> SPECIAL COUNSEL WHILE THEY ARE WITHIN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FRAMEWORK.
THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE TYPICAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PRACTICE OR PROCEDURES.
WHILE THEY ARE GOVERNED BY THOSE, THE FUNCTION OUTSIDE OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
WHAT JOHN LAUSCH SAID TO MAYOR GARLAND, WE HAD THIS ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE TARGET OF INVESTIGATION.
WHAT YOU HOPE TO HAVE ANY SITUATIONS AS SOMEONE WHO IS INDEPENDENT.
THE ONLY PERSON WHO COULD FIRE THE SPECIAL COUNSEL IS GARLAND SO THERE'S A CONNECTION.
THERE'S THIS ATTEMPT TO SAY IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE AND WE NEED TO TAKE THIS OUTSIDE OF THE PROCESS.
>> SIMILAR TO WHAT HE DID AROUND INVESTIGATION SURROUNDING TRUMP.
>> I THINK THIS MOVE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
ROBERT HER AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN PERCEIVED IN THE CIRCLES AS A CONSERVATIVE AND NOMINAL REPUBLICAN WHO IS THE UNITED STATES ATTORNEY UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HE SUCCEEDED ROSENSTEIN.
THE ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL.
HE COMES OUT OF STANDARD LAW SCHOOL.
HE GOES OUT ON THE NINTH CIRCUIT.
THE LATE CHIEF JUSTICE WOULD BE RELINQUISHED IN SUPREME COURT, WELL KNOWN IN LEGAL CIRCLES, PERCEIVED AS A STRAIGHT SHOOTER.
SOMEONE WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE BY VIRTUE OF BEING THE U.S. ATTORNEY OF MARYLAND AND IN NATIONAL SECURITY CASES.
NOMINALLY THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY CASE.
THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE OF THESE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS WAS INSIGNIFICANT.
>> THIS IS AN CONFIDENCE THIS WILL BE AN INDEPENDENT PROCESS.
WE MENTIONED THE TRUMP INVESTIGATION, HOW IS IT SIMILAR OR DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S GOING ON THERE?
>> ONE OF THE TASKS OF THE SPECIAL COUNSEL IS IDENTICAL WHICH IS FOCUSED ON MISHANDLING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS .
CLEARLY THERE WAS MISHANDLING ON BOTH MATTERS.
IN RESPECT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE INVESTIGATION.
THE ALLEGATIONS OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE OR LEADING THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
THE MISHANDLING OF THE FEDERAL DEFENSE.
THE NATIONAL DEFENSE MATTERS.
OR SERIOUS CHARGES THAT SO FAR HAVE NOT SHOWN UP IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION INVESTIGATION.
FINDING A WAY TO INCREASE OR EXPAND THE INVESTIGATION DEPENDING ON WHAT IS COVERED.
>> REMIND US WHAT THE LAWS ARE REGARDING OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ESPECIALLY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND WHY THEY ARE IN PLACE FOR SOMEONE LEAVING THE OFFICE THAT THEY CAN HAVE THEM ?
>> THEY ARE YOUR PROPERTY THEY ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE GOVERNMENT.
THEY HAVE SECRET MARKINGS ON THEM.
THESE ARE IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS THAT SHOULD RESIDE WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT.
THE KEY IN THESE CASES ULTIMATELY IN LAY TERMS , WAS THIS DONE KNOWINGLY, INTENTIONALLY, OR WAS IT CARELESSNESS AND A MISTAKE?
THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE THE GOVERNMENT HOLDS IS THE SAME BUT FOR CRIMINAL PROSECUTION THE FOCUS REALLY IS ON THE INTENT.
DID THEY INTEND TO TAKE THESE OUT FOR SOME PURPOSE?
DID THEY INTEND TO KEEP THEM FROM WHERE THEY INTENDED TO RESIDE THEM?
WHICH IS THE GOVERNMENT.
>> SAY THEY FIND WITH CERTAINTY OR WITH REASONABLE CERTAINTY THAT BIDEN DIDN'T INTEND TO HAVE THEM AND THAT THIS WAS AN ACCIDENT.
>> THE LAW CARES A LOT.
THE INTENT OF KNOWLEDGE AND WHAT MATTERS A LOT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
TO WHAT MATTERS OF NATIONAL SECURITY DO THEY RELATE AND THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE THAT COULD BE DONE .
>> THERE'S THE ISSUE OF COURSE THE IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT IN THIS CASE THAT CLASSIFIES THIS CASE, ALL CLASSIFICATION IN THE EXECUTIVE REALM IS WITHIN THE PRESIDENTS OFFICE.
WHEN HE IS IN OFFICE , CLASSIFIED OR DECLASSIFY ANYTHING, HE'S THE ARBITER AND ALL OF THE STANDARDS AND THE OFFICIALS OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH FLOWING FROM THE PRESIDENT, HIS DECISIONS.
THE VICE PRESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE KINDS OF DECISIONS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SO IN HIS PRE-PRESIDENTIAL DAYS WHICH HE HAD HANDLED THESE DOCUMENTS HE DIDN'T HAVE THE POTENTIAL LIBERTY THAT MISTER TRUMP HAD IN THE WANING HOURS OF THE PRESIDENCY .
A LOT DEPENDS ON WHAT WAS IN THE DOCUMENTS.
I SUSPECT WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE HIGHER OFFICE THAT THEY DON'T PACK THEIR OWN DESKS.
AS MISTER BIDEN PROBABLY HAD FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT OFFICES ONE IN THE WEST WING AND ONE IN THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE BUILDING AND ON CAPITOL HILL ONE IN THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL MANSION.
THE ADMIRALS HOUSE AND SO FORTH.
SOMEONE PACKED THOSE BOXES THEN SHIPPED THEM OFF TO HIS CENTER OR HOUSE IN DELAWARE.
IT PROBABLY TOOK THEM TIME TO GET THROUGH THOSE.
THE POLITICS OF THIS IS DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TWO PARALLEL CASES TOOK THE TRUMP CASE MAKES THE BIDEN CASE ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT.
MISTER BIDEN WOULD DO WELL TO DO WHAT PRESIDENT REAGAN DID AT THE TIME OF THE GREAT MATTER, INSTRUCT SUBORDINATES TO BE COMPLETELY FORTHCOMING WITH A SPECIAL COUNSEL AND LET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL.
>> THE PRESIDENT SAID HE WANTS TO SAY MORE ABOUT THE ISSUE BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING A BIG BOMBSHELL.
ALTHOUGH WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE TIMELINE HERE , THIS IS SIX YEARS AFTER THE OBAMA-BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FROM THE DOCUMENTS OSTENSIBLY CAME FROM.
THE FACT THAT HIS LAWYERS FOUND THEM NOW, IN A REVIEW THAT THEY APPARENTLY CONDUCTED AT THE PENN CENTER, AND AS HIS HOUSE?
>> WE ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WOULD DO THE REVIEW WITH COMPARISON WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
MAYBE THIS TOOK PLACE MAYBE , IT MAY HAVE NOT TAKEN PLACE VERY SUCCESSFULLY.
THIS WASN'T REVEALED TO THE PRESS FOR QUITE SOME TIME AS WELL WHICH MAY BE TYPICAL IN TERMS OF WHERE THE GOVERNMENT WATCHES THE INFORMATION.
THE TIMING DOES RAISE QUESTIONS BUT AGAIN, THIS SHOWS A KIND OF CARELESSNESS WHICH IS CONCERNING.
>> TO EXTRAORDINARY SCENARIOS HERE AT THE U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL .
THE QUESTION POTENTIALLY OF THE PROSECUTION OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT AT A POTENTIAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, HOW DOES THIS WAY ON THE MIND OF THE TOP PROSECUTOR IN THE COUNTRY WHEN HE HAS TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS?
>> YOU WILL HAVE THESE DECISIONS AND INVESTIGATIONS MADE BY TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
JACK SMITH WILL MAKE THE DECISION ON THIS MATTER.
MISTER HUR WILL MAKE THE DECISION ON THE BIDEN MATTER.
THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITIES AND A LOT OF DIFFERENCES.
WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THEM BUT THIS TAKES PLACE IN THIS VERY POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT HERE.
FOR THE LAYPERSON, YOU'VE GOT TO HIGH-LEVEL GUYS WHO APPARENTLY TAKE THE DOCUMENTS HOME AND DON'T GIVE THEM BACK.
I THINK FOR THE LAYPERSON, CARELESSNESS IS THE BASE LEVEL AND YOU GET TO KNOWING THE INTENTION FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE.
>> SPEAKING OF POLITICS, REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE THAT WANT TO PROBE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR WITH A C AS SELECTIVE PROSECUTION OF CONSERVATIVES.
THE FACT THAT THIS IS HAPPENING DOES THIS POUR COLD WATER ON THE NOTION THAT THE DOJ IS SOMEHOW UNFAIR OR PARTISAN IN WHAT IT CHOOSES TO GO AFTER?
>> THE PROOF WILL BE IN THE PUTTING I SUPPOSE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES BUT THE QUESTION IS WILL IT BE HANDLED AS A LEGAL MATTER AND SEEM TO BE HANDLED AS A LEGAL MATTER?
I THINK THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS RIGHT IN BOTH CASES TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE IS A MINIMUM OF POLITICAL INFLUENCE AND HOW THE INVESTIGATIONS ARE BEING HANDLED.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A DISAPPOINTMENT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE ATTORNEY HERE IN CHICAGO WHO HAD BEEN ASSIGNED TO THIS MATTER, LEAVING OFFICE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THROUGH TO THE END.
WE SEE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL GOING TO A FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY AND NOT PERCEIVED TO BE A PARTISAN BUT SOMEONE WHO HANDLED THIS RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY NEEDS.
>> MY NEXT QUESTION , YOU SERVED WITH JOHN LAUSCH IN THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
HE'S BEEN THE U.S. ATTORNEY, THE U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL.
HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE IS LEAVING TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE TIMING OF THAT?
>> I'M NOT PRIVY TO HIS PERSONAL LIFE.
HE SERVED HONORABLY AND IN INTEGRITY.
THE TRIAL IS NOT UNTIL 2024.
THERE'S AN IMPORTANT TRIAL.
SO THE TIMING IS A LITTLE BIT OUT.
I THINK WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE INVESTIGATION AND THE TRIALS THEY ARE BEING RUN PRINCIPALLY BY THE PROSECUTOR.
HIS TEAM OF LAWYERS AND FBI AGENTS ETC., THOSE PEOPLE IN THE DAILY WORK THAT WILL TRY TO GET THEM.
JOHN HAS BEEN A GREAT LEADER BUT THOSE CASES ARE IN GOOD HANDS.
>> AT THE CENTER OF INVESTIGATING SO MANY CASES .
THE LIST GOES ON.
IT'S GREAT TO TALK YOU AS ALWAYS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU GOOD NIGHT.
>> BACK WITH MORE CHICAGO TONIGHT AFTER THIS.
>>> A FORMER U.S.
SENATOR ON HER NEW ROLE LEAVING THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO AND POLITICS.
FROM DEATH TO LIFE LOOKING BACK ON 20 YEARS, EVERY DEATH ROW INMATES SENTENCE WAS COMMUTED >>> A CERAMIC STUDIO FOUND ONE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
FIRST, MORE TODAY'S TOP STORIES.
>>> POLICE ARE AGAIN SEEKING HELP IN THE UNSOLVED HOMICIDE OF A 14-YEAR-OLD.
TODAY MARKS ONCE YEAR .
CPD SAYS SURVEILLANCE VIDEO SHOWS A PERSON OF INTEREST RUNNING THROUGH AN ALLEY.
ANYONE WITH INFORMATION HAS BEEN ASKED TO CALL DETECTIVES OR SUBMIT AN ANONYMOUS TIP ONLINE.
THE LINK IS ON OUR WEBSITE.
>>> FIREFIGHTERS RESCUE ONE WORKER WHO WAS TRAPPED DURING A BUILDING COLLAPSE IN BRONZEVILLE THIS MORNING.
HE WAS REST TO THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO MEDICAL CENTER.
OFFICIALS SAY THE BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION BUT IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT KIND OF WORK THE PEOPLE INSIDE WERE PERFORMING.
THE HISTORIC MOMENT FOR THE LAKEFRONT PROMONTORY POINT.
IN HEARING FOLLOWING HUNDREDS OF LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
>> LITERALLY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF LETTERS.
I THINK IT POINTED TO THE UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
THIS IS A MOMENT TO CELEBRATE.
HONORING THOSE MEMORIES.
>> THE DESIGNATION PROVIDES ADDED SAFEGUARDS AGAINST THE PROGRESS ADMINISTRATION DURING THE 1930S.
CHAMPIONS OF THE POINT HAVE SPENT MORE THAN 20 YEARS BEATING BACK PROPOSALS TO'S DEPTH BACK THE LIMESTONE FOR CONCRETE.
THEY WERE ABLE TO ARGUE REHABILITATION IS NOT ONLY POSSIBLE BUT IT'S EVEN MORE COSTLY THAN THE CONCRETE SOLUTIONS.
>>> THE FORMER U.S.
SENATOR FROM NORTH DAKOTA IS NOW A TEMPERA CHICAGOAN TAKING ON A BIG LOCAL JOB.
HEIDI HEITKAMP TAKES OVER LEADERSHIP OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO INSTITUTE OF POLITICS FROM DAVID AXELROD.
DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM A RELIABLY CONSERVATIVE STATE FROM 2013-2019 AND TAKING A NUMBER OF CONSEQUENTIAL VOTES IN OFFICE.
SOME OF WHAT SHE'S SAYS SHE'S PROUD OF AND OTHERS SHE SAY SHE MAY REGRET.
JOINING US NOW IS HEIDI HEITKAMP.
OUR OWN REPORTER HAS BEEN NAMED A FELLOW AT THE INSTITUTE OF POLITICS.
>> WE LOVE TO TELL THE LOCAL STORIES AS WELL AS THE NATIONAL STORIES .
WE ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR STUDENTS TO GET INVOLVED AT EVERY LEVEL.
ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY LEVEL.
>> YOU'VE GOT THE BEST PERSON IN THE CITY TO DO THAT.
REMIND US WHAT THE INSTITUTE OF POLITICS DOES AND WHAT THE VISION IS FOR IT .
>> THE INSTITUTE EXISTS WITHIN COLLEGE CAMPUSES TO BUILD CITIZEN CAPACITY AMONG THE STUDENTS.
BRILLIANT STUDENTS WHO COME FROM ALL OVER.
STUDENTS WHO MAY BE IN BIOETHICS OR ARE DOING AMAZING THINGS IN CHEMISTRY BUT YET WE KNOW THEY HAVE A ROLE IN PROMOTING CITIZENSHIP IN OUR SOCIETY.
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD NOT ONLY LEARN COLLABORATION AND ABOUT PUBLIC POLICY THAT THEY CAN ALSO LEARN HOW TO AFFECT PUBLIC POLICY AS CITIZENS.
NOT EVERYONE WILL RUN FOR OFFICE BUT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HOPEFULLY TAKE PART IN RENEWING AND IMPROVING OUR DEMOCRACY.
>> THEY ARE MEETING A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE POLITICAL SPHERE.
YOUTH HAD NEARLY EVERYBODY COME THROUGH AND DO PRESENTATIONS FOR THE STUDENTS THERE AND I'VE MET WITH THEM AND THEY ARE VERY DYNAMIC STUDENTS OBVIOUSLY .
AS WE MENTIONED YOU WERE ONE TERM DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM NORTH DAKOTA.
IT SEEMS LIKE AGES AGO THAT A DEMOCRAT COULD BE ELECTED IN A STATE LIKE NORTH DAKOTA.
HOW DID YOU DO THIS?
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT NORTH DAKOTA AND SOUTH DAKOTA AND NEBRASKA , KANSAS, OKLAHOMA, AND TEXAS.
USED TO BE ABOUT 40% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SENATE WERE ABOUT DEMOCRAT.
THAT'S SWITCHED.
I WAS THE LAST HOLDOUT.
I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTS I HAVE AND THE WAY I WAS INTRODUCED TO POLITICS IS BRIDGING THE URBAN RURAL DIVIDE.
AND WHY RURAL VOTERS FEEL DISAFFECTED AND AREN'T ABLE TO CONNECT WITH URBAN VOTERS AND HOW DO WE RECONNECT THE DOTS .
IF YOU TALK TO A CAB DRIVER IN NEW YORK AND SAY WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR YOUR FAMILY, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM YOUR COUNTRY THEIR ANSWER WON'T BE ANY DIFFERENT THEN A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN CARRINGTON NORTH DAKOTA BUT SOMEHOW BECAUSE OF POLITICAL DISCOURSE WE SEE THESE DIVISIONS AS MUCH MORE STARK SO THE EFFORTS OF SOMETHING LIKE THESE POLITICS TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE HAVE A BROAD DIALOGUE AND REDUCE THE TEMPERATURE AND REDUCE THE HEAT AND POLITICS AND COMING TOGETHER AS A COUNTRY.
YOU GREW UP IN A TOWN OF 90 PEOPLE.
WHAT'S YOUR ADVICE TO YOUR FORMER POLITICAL PARTY IN REACHING VOTERS ?
>> THE FIRST THING IS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW UP .
YOU HAVE TO LIST.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF I WOULD SAY, A LOT GOING ON.
LOOK AT WHAT WE DID.
WHY ARE THEY VOTING AGAINST YOUR INTERESTS.
THEY VOTE THEIR INTERESTS.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHY WHAT YOU ARE SELLING THAT THEY ARE BUYING.
YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW UP TO ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE DIALOGUES.
WHEN I STARTED OUT IN POLITICS , THERE WERE SENIORS AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE WITH A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION.
THAT'S FLIPPED FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER FOR A COMMON PURPOSE WHETHER IT'S A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN WHICH IS WHAT INTERESTS THEM IN DOING.
>> ONE OF MANY OF THE GREAT UNIVERSITIES.
ONE OF THE INTERESTS THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE URBAN DIVIDE WITH GUN CONTROL.
HOW DO POLITICAL LEADERS COME TO COMMON GROUND ON THIS ESPECIALLY WHEN A LOT OF THOSE LEADERS LIKE TO REALLY PLAY POLITICS WITH THIS.
>> TO SAY THEY AREN'T COMING TOGETHER YOU SAW THE PASSAGE OF ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT GUN /PUBLIC SAFETY BILLS IN THE LAST CONGRESS THAT WAS BIPARTISAN.
SO LOOKING AT THE RED FLAG LAWS WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
IN TERMS OF PEOPLE KNOWING SOMEONE COULD BE DANGEROUS OR SOMEONE COULD TAKE A WEAPON AND CAUSE SERIOUS HARM AND DEATH TO THE COMMUNITIES.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU HAVE FOUND COMMON GROUND WITH RED FLAG LAWS.
YOU ARE TAKING A LOOK AT ENHANCING THE PENALTIES FOR TRAFFICKING AND GUNS.
LOOKING AT THE KIND OF THINGS WHERE YOU COULD FIND COMMON GROUND AND THEN BUILD ON THAT LOOKING AT PUBLIC SAFETY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AREA.
THE NEED TO LET STATES AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS DECIDE.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A SECOND AMENDMENT IT'S PART OF OUR CONSTITUTION THERE WILL BE LITIGATION UNDER THE SECOND AMENDMENT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT SO IMPORTANT IS LOCAL CONTROL OF THE ISSUE WHEN YOU LOOK AT ILLINOIS AND YOU SEE THIS DECISION AND SEE HOW IT GOES IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP UNLESS THERE IS ENFORCEMENT ON TRAFFICKING.
IT WON'T STOP WEAPONS FROM COMING IN PLACES LIKE IN INDIANA.
>> THIS AREA WILL BE LITIGATED TO POTENTIAL AREAS IN COURT.
I READ IN THE SENATE THAT YOU APPROVED ONE OF THE PRESIDENTS SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.
HE SAID THAT WAS PROBABLY THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF YOUR SENATE CAREER.
DO YOU REGRET THAT?
>> I'VE WON ELECTIONS AND I'VE LOST ELECTIONS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY IS SOMEONE WHO SERVES THE PUBLIC YOU'VE GOT TO BE TRUE TO WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN.
AND EXCEPT THE VOTES YOU TOOK.
NEIL GORE SEARCH WAS IS PROCESSES REPLACEMENT.
HE REPRESENTED THE WEST AND UNDERSTOOD WHO HAS BEEN A CHAMPION .
HE ACTUALLY WAS THE SWING VOTE .
HE BROUGHT A NEW DYNAMIC.
NOW HE'S TAKEN A COUPLE STEPS BACK ON THE COURT WHICH IS REGRETTABLE BUT WHEN HE SAW BRETT CAVANAUGH, AND HE BECAME CENTER OF CONTROVERSY FOR THE MOST PART I TELL PEOPLE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HEARING AND YOU TURN OFF THE SOUND AND WATCH IT, ASK YOURSELF, DOES THIS PERSON HAVE THE TEMPERAMENT TO BE ON THE MOST IMPORTANT AND HIGHEST COURT IN THE LAND?
THE JUDGMENT WAS NO.
PEOPLE SAY, PEOPLE IN YOUR STATE WANTED YOU TO VOTE FOR BRETT CAVANAUGH AND I SAID I WASN'T MAKING THE DECISION JUST FOR THEM I WAS MAKING THE DECISION FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
THAT'S HOW LONG HE WILL BE ON THE COURT.
>> I KNOW THAT THE RIGHTS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, YOU ARE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CHAMPION.
ANOTHER SENATE ISSUE THE DEBATE OVER THE FILIBUSTER.
THE RULES THAT MAKE THIS PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE WITH ANY LEGISLATION FOR BIPARTISAN VOTES.
WHERE DO YOU FALL ON THE DEBATE OVER WHETHER TO GET RID OF THAT OR NOT?
>> THE BEST LEGISLATION IS THE LEGISLATION THAT'S FORGED ON CONSENSUS.
THE 50 VOTE MARGINS COULD BE INJURIOUS TO THE CONSISTENCY IN ELECTIONS AND IN PUBLIC POLICY.
I WAS SOMEBODY WHO PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE SUPPORTED HAD I BEEN THERE.
I BELIEVE THE FILIBUSTER IS OVERUSED AND WE HAVE TO PUNISH PEOPLE WHO USE IT EXCESSIVELY.
CONSENSUS LEGISLATION IS MORE PERMANENT PUBLIC POLICY.
SO THEY WILL WORK IT OUT.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS NOT REMOVING THE FILIBUSTER, THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THE LAST CONGRESS WAS ABLE TO ACHIEVE WITH THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT WHETHER THIS WAS THE GUN LEGISLATION SHIFT.
WHICH IS THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD IN FACT HELP AMERICA BECOME MORE COMPETITIVE IN THE TECH INDUSTRIES.
LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THESE AND BUILD THE CONSENSUS.
THERE'S A GROUP RIGHT NOW THAT'S LOOKING AT IMMIGRATION.
WE DID THIS WHILE I WAS THERE.
WE PASSED AN IMMIGRATION BILL THAT GOT ALMOST 70 VOTES.
HAD PAUL RYAN TAKE THIS UP IN THE HOUSE I THINK WE WOULD'VE HAD IMMIGRATION REFORM IN THE COUNTRY, OBAMA WOULD HAVE SIGNED IT.
BUILDING THE COALITIONS COULD REALLY BE INVALUABLE FOR THESE INSTITUTIONS.
>> SOME BIPARTISAN ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THIS HYPERPOLARIZED ERA.
FORMER SENATOR HEIDI HEITKAMP BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR NEW ROLE AT THE UNITS CENTER FOR POLITICS.
>> WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS NOT JUST ON NATIONAL ISSUES BUT BEING PART OF THE CHICAGO COMMUNITY.
THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE DO AT THE INSTITUTE.
>> A FEW OF THE ISSUES TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE MAYOR'S RACE IN FULL SWING AND YOU GOT THE BEST PERSON TO HELP YOUR STUDENTS ALONG.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
NOW WE RETURN TO MARQUETTE PARK ON THE CITY SOUTHWEST SIDE WHERE JOANNA HERNANDEZ SPENT PART OF THE DAY AS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES.
JOANNA.
>> WE ARE HERE WITH THE FOUNDING EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US.
YOU'VE LIVED AND WORKED HERE FOR MANY YEARS.
WHAT'S YOUR CONNECTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
>> THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS MEANT TO A LOT TO MY FAMILY.
THIS FAMILY THAT , A PLACE WERE CONNECTED TO A LOT OF COMMUNITY.
I LEARNED TO DO COMMUNITY ORGANIZING.
THE LEGACY OF KING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS LEFT SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
TO SO MANY OF US WHO ORGANIZE THE EVENT.
>> IT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU TO BRING TO THIS COMMUNITY?
>> ACROSS COMMUNITIES IN THE SOUTHSIDE WE WERE DOING ORGANIZING AND WE WORKED HERE.
WE WERE CONNECTING .
THERE WERE DISCONNECTED FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES AFFECTED BY VIOLENCE AND POVERTY.
WE WERE LOOKING TO FIND A VISION FOR WHAT A THRIVING TRAJECTORY FOR ALL OF OUR FAMILIES COULD LOOK LIKE.
>> I WANT TO GO TO YOU, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND YOU MENTIONED YOU WERE BORN AND RAISED HERE.
TELL ME HOW YOU CONNECT WITH THE PEOPLE HERE.
>> I CONNECT WITH THE PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE I'M FROM HERE.
I'VE LIVED IN INGLEWOOD ALL MY LIFE.
BORN AND RAISED.
IT'S EASY TO GO TO THE STREET TO CONNECT WITH OUR PEOPLE.
THAT'S THE BETTER OUR COMMUNITY.
THE HIGH-RISK YOUTH.
WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM ALTERNATIVES TO LIFE.
TO ENGAGE THEM IN THE ARTS.
LIKE WE HAVE WITH OUR CERAMICS SHOP.
TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE FROM WHERE I'M FROM.
>> TELL ME WHAT YOU TAKE FROM DOCTOR KING'S LEGACY , BRINGING IT WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY TO WORK.
>> HE HAD A DREAM AND SO DO WE.
THE DREAMS COINCIDE WITH EACH OTHER.
WE WANT TO END .
WE ARE ALL STRIVING TO THE SAME CAUSE.
THE BEAUTY OF IT AND THE CONNECTION WE HAVE.
>> YOU WORK TO FIGHT AGAINST VIOLENCE.
>> DEFINITELY.
COMING FROM THE STREETS OF CHICAGO IN INGLEWOOD.
WE KNOW FIRSTHAND VIOLENCE.
IF THEY HAD AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE LIFESTYLE THAT THEY LIVE, IT WOULD END SOME OF THE VIOLENCE.
UNEMPLOYMENT AND VIOLENCE GO HAND-IN-HAND.
WE HAVE SERVICES AND TRAINING WORKSHOPS WHERE WE COULD PULL THEM AWAY TO GIVE THEM ALTERNATIVES.
>> FOR ALL AGES?
24 ALL AGES.
>> TELL ME ABOUT THE CERAMIC STUDIO AND HOW THE TURNAROUND HAS BEEN FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
IT WAS SO INCREDIBLE TO FEEL THESE COOL PIECES.
>> WE CALL THIS THE BELOVED COMMUNITY CERAMIC STUDIO AND IT'S CONNECTED TO THIS EXTRAORDINARY MEMORIAL BECAUSE PART OF WHY THIS IS SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE, IT WASN'T BUILT IN A FACTORY OVERSEAS SOMEWHERE.
THIS WAS CRAFTED IN PLACES AND SPACES LIKE THE STUDIO.
IT IS PART OF THE LEGACY AFTER BUILDING THIS MEMORIAL.
WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT REFLECTED THE HISTORY.
WE OPENED UP ONE OF THE ONLY FULL-TIME CERAMIC STUDIOS ANYWHERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT HAS NOW BECOME AN EXTRAORDINARY CENTER AND SPACE WERE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND ALL BACKGROUNDS COME TOGETHER TO LEARN CERAMICS AND ACTUALLY HEAL AND TALK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BUILD A FULL OF IT COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
>> THE MONUMENT IS QUITE BEAUTIFUL.
WHY WAS IT IMPORTANT TO BRING IT HERE TO MARQUETTE PARK?
>> BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE KING WAS STONED OF COURSE ON AUGUST 1956 IN AN EVENT THAT'S OFTEN TALKED ABOUT.
FOR MANY YEARS WE'VE HOSTED A HUGE FESTIVAL IN THE PARK CALLED TAKING IT TO THE STREETS.
MANY ORGANIZERS WHETHER THEY WERE LATINO, BLACK, OR ARABIC THEY WORKED AND TALKED AND DREAMED ABOUT HOW WE COULD MEMORY EIGHT THE COMMUNITY.
THEY INITIATED THIS KIND OF DRIVE IN 2015.
OVER THREE SUMMERS WE WERE SYNAGOGUES, CHURCHES, AND MOSQUES .
WE MET ACROSS THE STREET 42 YEARS RAISING MONEY AND FINALLY COMMISSION THIS EXTRAORDINARY WORK.
IT WAS A REFLECTION NOT ONLY ON THE PAIN AND TRAUMA THAT HAPPENED ON THAT DAY BUT ALSO A VISION OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH COMMUNITIES COMING TOGETHER .
>> IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU WHAT'S ONE WORD YOU WANT TO TELL THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS WHEN THEY WALK PAST HERE WHAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO FEEL ?
>> I WANT THEM TO FEEL INSPIRED TO CHANGE THEIR LIVES AND BREAK THE NORMS OF VIOLENCE .
WE'VE BECOME SO USED TO.
WE SHOULD WANT TO STOP VIOLENCE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
WE SHOULD BE INSPIRED TO GO OUT AND JOIN IN THE WORK AND COMBAT THE VIOLENCE.
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING TONIGHT.
>> COMING UP WE ARE SPEAKING TO A HEALTHY ORGANIZATION.
SENDING IT BACK TO YOU.
>> WE WILL SEE SHORTLY.
>> YEARS AFTER THE FIRST STEP IS TAKEN TO A MORATORIUM ON ABOLISHING AND ABOLISHMENT OF THE DEATH PENALTY IN ILLINOIS WOULD TALK ABOUT THE LASTING IMPACT AND WHAT'S NEXT.
>>> GEORGE RYAN COMMUTED THE SENTENCES OF 167 PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW 20 YEARS AGO.
CHANGING THEIR SENTENCES FROM DEATH TO LIFE BEHIND BARS.
THE ABOLITION OF THE DEATH PENALTY IN ILLINOIS.
THE DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION OF ILLINOIS PRISON PROJECT AND ALICE KIM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RIGHTS PRACTICE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
LET'S START WITH YOU, YOU WERE ACTIVE IN THIS MOVEMENT FOR ABOLISHING THE DEATH PENALTY.
HE WORKED WITH RINALDO FOR DECADES.
WE WILL COME BACK TO HIS STORY IN A SECOND BUT DESCRIBE IF YOU WOULD THE ATMOSPHERE AT THAT TIME WHEN THEN GOVERNOR RYAN MADE THE DECISION TO COMMUTE ALL OF THE DEATH SENTENCES.
>> THIS WAS A HISTORIC MOMENT .
WHEN GOVERNOR RYAN -- THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO A SOCIAL MOVEMENT ON THE GROUND.
A CAMPAIGN INVOLVING ACTIVISTS.
THIS COMMUTATION DIDN'T HAPPEN IN A VACUUM.
IT WASN'T A FOREGONE CONCLUSION.
THAT'S HOW GOVERNOR RYAN WOULD DO THIS.
LOOKING BACK IN ILLINOIS HISTORY AND IN THE CLIMATE AROUND THE DEATH PENALTY THIS IS REALLY BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO ORGANIZED , LOCALIZED, ADVOCATED , YOU SAW THE SUPPORT FOR THE DEATH PENALTY DISSIPATE AND DECLINE.
>> RUN ALTHOUGH YOU ARE ONE OF THE 167 PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW AT THAT TIME.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU?
>> THIS MEANT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MY HUMANA TUNING HUMANITY TO BE SEEN AND NOT JUST THE ACT THAT I COMMITTED.
FOR ME WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS, IT'S HEAVY.
NOT ONLY DO I WHERE THE SHAME OF MY DECISIONS OF YESTERDAY, I WHERE THE BURDEN OF REMINDING PEOPLE THAT I'M BETTER THAN MY WORST DECISION.
TRYING TO MOVE PEOPLE TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S IN GRACE AND NOT JUST PUNISHMENT.
>> YOU WERE SENTENCED IN 1983 FOR MURDER.
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE PERSON YOU WERE AT THAT TIME , YOU WERE 19 AT THE TIME.
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THAT PERSON VERSUS WHO YOU ARE TODAY?
>> IN 1983 I WAS A BLACK YOUTH WHO WAS A SEXUALLY ABUSED YOUNG MAN .
I COULDN'T SPELL APPLE.
I ATTEMPTED TO HIDE FROM SHAME AND HURT THROUGH DRUGS.
I'D BEEN SHOT IN THE CHEST BY MY BROTHER.
I'VE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE PROTECTING ME.
NOT TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR MY BEHAVIOR BUT I REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT SIMPLE THING WHEN PEOPLE SAY WHEN YOU'RE IN SCHOOL, ALGEBRA IS SOMETHING I'LL NEVER USE BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS THAT THOSE VARIABLES AND EXPONENTS ARE THE THINGS THAT LED TO THE ANSWERS.
IT'S NOT HARD TO GET TO WHERE I LANDED BUT I THINK IT'S A MIRACLE THAT I LANDED WHERE I AM NOW.
I'M AN EXAMPLE OF THE POTENTIAL .
THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WAITING TO BE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO BE AN EXAMPLE.
>> JUDGE WRIGHT SPOKE WITH US ABOUT THIS DECISION.
>> THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY CLOSE AND WERE INNOCENT AND THEY ALMOST WERE EXECUTED.
I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE OFFICE SEEING IN THE PAPER SOMEONE HAD BEEN EXECUTED WHO WAS FOUND EXECUTED AND INNOCENT AND IT WAS TOO LATE FOR.
SO I THOUGHT THIS SOMETHING I COULD DO.
>> ALICE WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS A LASTING IMPACT OF GOVERNOR RYAN'S CLEMENCY?
>> I THINK THAT THIS HELPED PAVE THE WAY ABSOLUTELY TO THE ABOLITION OF THE DEATH PENALTY.
I THINK ONE THING WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE CRIMINAL PUNISHMENT SYSTEM IS INTACT.
HAVING ANOTHER FORM OF PUNISHMENT WITH DEATH BY INCARCERATION.
WHEN RINALDO WAS SPEAKING EARLIER ABOUT HIS OWN TRANSFORMATION , THERE IS A DANGER TO THE STORIES TOLD ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE ON DEATH ROW.
THERE'S DANGER THAT WE ONLY SEE THEM WHEN DIMENSIONALLY FOR THE CRIME FOR WHICH THEY WERE CONVICTED OF.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE THREE DIMENSIONALLY AS FULL HUMAN BEINGS.
I THINK RINALDO HAS BEEN A VOICE THAT HAS GIVEN US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE AREN'T SAYING BEHIND THE PRISON WALLS.
>> TO THE POINT, WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF AND THOSE WHO USED TO WORK WITH.
>> WHEN YOU CONDEMN SOMEONE YOU'RE REALLY CONDEMNING YOURSELF.
YOU'RE SAYING, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF THIS PERSON BEING BETTER THAN AN ACT AND I'M SAYING THAT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
NOT TO GET PREACHY BUT BEAUTY DOES COME FROM ASHES.
EVERYTHING WE BENEFIT FROM COMES FROM SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN STOPPED.
WAS MOVING SLOW AND ONCE AGAIN BEGAN TO GROW.
HOPE.
I'M EXCITED TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT HOPE SHOULD BE A HUMAN RIGHT AND NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE THINK IS OUT OF SIGHT SO FAR AWAY.
HOPE IS SITTING HERE AND SAYING FOR THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MEN AND WOMEN WHOSE VOICES WILL BE OVERSHADOWED BY THE SCREAMS OF YESTERDAY, REMEMBER IF YOU BE STILL, THE POTENTIAL .
I STILL BELIEVE DEATH BY INCARCERATION IS A HORRIBLE THING.
I HOPE WE COULD MOVE TO A PLACE WHERE WE SAY EVERYONE SHOULD GET THE CHANCE TO BE BETTER THAN YESTERDAY.
>> WHAT'S NEXT WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
>> WE NEED TO REIMAGINE THE CRIMINAL PUNISHMENT SYSTEM.
WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT OTHER , WHAT RINALDO OFTEN SAYS, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SECOND CHANCES BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE REALITY IS THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED NEVER HAD A FIRST CHANCE.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOW DO WE BECOME A SOCIETY THAT ACTUALLY GIVES PEOPLE FIRST CHANCES.
WE NEED TO LOOK TO EFFORTS TO REVERSE SENTENCING.
WE NEED TO ABOLISH LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE.
THERE'S SO MUCH WE COULD BE DOING.
ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THOUGHT ALL OF OUR LAWMAKERS AND POLICYMAKERS, OUR VOTERS .
ALL OF US NEED TO GET OURSELVES INSIDE OF PRISONS TO MEET THOSE PEOPLE WHO OUR SOCIETY HAS BEEN INCARCERATING AND TO SEE PEOPLE FULLY IN ALL OF THEIR DIMENSIONS AND ALL OF THEIR HUMANITY.
THINK ABOUT HOW OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS LOOK LIKE BASED ON ALL THAT.
>> REALLY QUICKLY , THAT IS IT.
UNTIL PEOPLE STOP FEAR MARTYRING FEAR MONGERING AND ACTING BETTER, WE SHOULDN'T BE CHASTE AND ACTING OUT OF FEAR BUT OUT OF LOVE.
>> I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF ARGUMENTS TO BE HAD BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
>> BACK TO YOU .
>> RETURNING TO MARQUETTE PARK WHERE JOANNA HERNANDEZ SPENT THE DAY AS PART OF OUR IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES.
>> WE ARE HERE WITH THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS AND PROGRAM IMPACT .
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
YOUR GROUP DOES WORK IN CHICAGO WHERE MARQUETTE PARK IS.
TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW THE ORGANIZATION SUPPORTS BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.
>> APPROACHING THE 50th YEAR OF IMPACT IN THE GREATER SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR MANY YEARS.
WE PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND STATE ON THIS INITIATIVE.
SOME THINGS SPECIFIC TO THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND ASPIRING BUSINESS OWNER.
WE ARE FOCUSED ON BUILDING EQUITABLE REALITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES AND THE INDUSTRIES THERE.
>> YOU SAID 50 YEARS .
TELL ME HOW THIS HAS CHANGED?
>> IT'S DRASTICALLY CHANGED.
PRE-THE 1980S IT WAS PREDOMINANTLY EUROPEAN.
LITHUANIAN, POLISH, IRISH.
AROUND THE MID-1980S TO 1990S THERE WAS A SHIFT AND BECAME PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN.
>> COULD YOU TELL ME HOW THIS INVESTMENT HAS IMPACTED COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS ONE?
>> THERE IS NO SECRET THERE IS A HUGE INVESTMENT IN THESE COMMUNITIES.
OUR GOAL IS TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AND BE INTENTIONAL WITH REGARD TO THE REINVESTMENT OF THESE UNFORTUNATE AREAS.
>> WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR THE VISION OF THE ORGANIZATION?
>> WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE WORK.
FUNNELING IN THOSE DOLLARS TO BUILD AN EQUITABLE REALITY.
WE ARE BECOMING A CATALYST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE WANT TO BUILD EMPOWERMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN BEING WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND GOING TO GROCERY STORES.
GOING TO ENJOY LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND TAKING THE CHILDREN TO THE PARK.
WE WANT TO BRING BACK THAT REALITY TO THESE SIDES OF TOWN.
>> YOUR STANDING IN FRONT OF THE BEAUTIFUL MONUMENT.
CELEBRATING KING'S BIRTHDAY.
WHAT DO YOU TAKE AWAY FROM HIS LEGACY?
>> HE WAS JUST SUCH AN INFLUENTIAL AND AUTHENTIC LEADER.
HE WAS FEARLESS.
I KNOW THAT HIS GOAL WAS FOR US TO OWN THAT WE ARE GREATER TOGETHER.
WITH HIS ALIGNMENT AND VISION THEY ARE ON TARGET WITH THAT.
WE WANT TO UNITE AS A RACE OF PEOPLE, A HUMAN RACE.
RINGING ABOUT NOT JUST A CHANGE BUT A PARADIGM SHIFT.
I THINK KING WAS ON THE ROAD TO THAT AND WE ARE PICKING UP THE TORCH.
>> THANKS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YOU ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER, DOCTOR KING HAS A HISTORY WITH CHICAGO.
HE LIVED IN CHICAGO FOR SOMETIME.
TELL US ABOUT THAT.
>> HE DID.
HE LIVED IN THE WESTSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD OF LAWNDALE.
HE LIVED THERE SPECIFICALLY TO PROTEST AGAINST THE LIVING CONDITIONS AND RAISE AWARENESS OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE 1960S AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE HERE IN THESE PILLARS THIS TELLS THE STORY OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND TO GIVE PEOPLE HOPE AND INSPIRATION.
>> JOANNA, THANKS VERY MUCH.
BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.
>> CHICAGO TO THAT IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY ALEXANDRA AND JOHN NICHOLS.
THE GYM AND K NAVY FAMILY.
THE POPE BROTHERS FOUNDATION.
THE SUPPORT OF THESE DONORS.
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